Tyldesley Family History

Sir Thomas Tyldesley 1612-1651

This blog seeks to document my research into the history of the Tyldesley family.  A pedigree produced by Gillow and Hewitson in 1873 gives a useful overview of the family, though it is incomplete and contains some errors.

I am particularly interested in the three individuals—Sir Thomas Tyldesley 1612-1651, his son Edward Tyldesley 1635-1685 and grandson Col Thomas Tyldesley 1657-1715.

• Sir Thomas Tyldesley 1612-1651 is the famous Cavalier, who may have been responsible for the first death of the English Civil War, who fought for Charles I at Edgehill and Marston Moor and who was slain at the Battle of Wigan Lane. A monument erected in 1679 marks the place he fell, and it is believed his remains lie under the central heating boiler in the Parish Church of St Mary the Virgin at Leigh.
• Edward Tyldesley 1635-1685, an "ingenious fellow", who may be found writing to Samuel Pepys, presenting Charles II with a white crow for the Royal aviaries in St James's Park and as a member of the embassy which brought Catherine of Braganza from Lisbon for her marriage to the King.
• Col Thomas Tyldesley 1657-1715, an ardent Jacobite who received a secret commission from James II and whose subversive activities were sufficient that a Royal Proclamation was issued against him by the usurper, William III. Thomas Tyldesley left a diary for the years 1712-1714, although as reported by the BBC, and by Dalya Alberge for The Times, this was badly damaged whilst in the safekeeping of the British Library. In the diary Thomas Tyldesley notes attending a pig roast to celebrate the death of Queen Anne in 1714 and having his sword and pistol repaired in preparation for the 1715 uprising.

I am hoping to publish a new edition of the Tyldesley Diary 1712-1714 at some point in the future, though it is likely to be two or three years in preparation. This will be a project supervised by the leading Jacobite academic, Professor Daniel Szechi at the University of Manchester.

In the meantime I shall be happy to hear from anyone with an interest in the family—there is a contact link in the right-hand column.

Garneston v Bradwell 1426

In 1650 W Lee, D Pakeman and G Bedell published Reports or causes in Chancery collected by Sir George Cary [FN1]. This volume includes a short report of Garneston v Bradwell in which costs were awarded in part against the claimant's clerk, Hugh Tyldesley.

For as much as the plaintant hath served processe upon the defendant to appear in this court return 15. Micha. and exhibited no sufficient Bill against him, and further for meere examination, sued out a Writ of Attachment against the defendant, before the returne of the subpoena; it is ordered that the plaintant shall pay unto the defendant 10s costs; and also that Hugh Tildesley, who made the processe against the defendant without a sufficient Bill, shall pay unto the defendant other 10s for his costs; William Garneston plaintant, Thomas Bradwell defendant. Anno 5.Hen 6.  Philip and Mary fol.11.

Costs against the defendant, and Clerk that made process before a Bill in Court

It is not yet certain who this Hugh Tyldesley is, though one possibility is that he is the brother of Thomas Tyldesley, serjeant at law, who died in 1410.  

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1. Reports or causes in Chancery collected by Sir George Cary, one of the masters of the Chancery in in [sic] anno 1601, out of the labours of Master William Lambert ; whereunto is annexed the Kings order and decree in Chancery for a rule to be observed by the chancellor in that court, exemplified and enrolled for a perpetuall record there, anno 1616; together with an alphabeticall table of all the cases, W Lee, D Pakeman and G Bedell, 1650

The Tyldesleys on the Isle of Man

The History of the Tyldesleys of Lancashire published by John Lunn in 1966 provided little coverage of the family outside the county—such as the branches which settled in Fornham St Genevieve and the Isle of Man.

A good introduction to the latter branch is be found on the excellent Manx Note Book site and is copied below by kind permission of Frances Coakley. This is a transcript of manuscript notes made by A W Moore in 1889 with footnotes by Joyce Oates and Frances Coakley:

From Manx Families, A.W.Moore, MS 1889

Tyldesleys of 'The Friary'

Arms: 'Three Rush Hills Vert.'

The Tildesley's of Tildesley in Lancashire were an ancient family. The first of them to have any connection with the Isle of Mann was Thurstan de Tyldesley, who was one of two commissioners sent there by Sir John Stanley in 1417. He married Margaret, daughter and coheir of Jordan de Worsley. From his time to that of Thomas, the fifth in descent from him, none of the family seem to have lived in the Island. Thomas was Water Bailiff in 1532, and in 1540 Deputy Governor. He died in 1554. He married a daughter of Sir Alex Radclyffe of Ordshall, Kent, and had issue. His eldest son Thurstan succeeded to the Lancashire property, but it would appear that there was a younger son who had the Manx property, the Friary, called Bemeccan, in Arbory, which had been presented to Thomas in 1536, as there is a William Tyldesley, probably Thomas's grandson, entered for it in 1595. William was a Member of the House of Keys from 1609 to 1637. He died in 1643, and was succeeded by his son Richard, who was made Comptroller in that year. He was the last member of this family, except Stanley, who held a post in the Council. He married Isabella Norris and had issue Thurstan. Richard's son Thurstan, an M.H.K, followed him in 1679, Thurstan's son William [1] in 1704, and William's son Richard [2] in 1726. Richard married Ann Stanley, [3] eldest daughter of Edward Stanley of Preston, a branch of the Derby family, and had issue Richard, who was entered in 1750. Richard married Catherine Moore [4] and had issue Thomas [5] (born 1733); Stanley (born 1735) [6]; Elizabeth (born 1730); Ann (born 1737); Richard (born 1740, [7] died 1774 without progeny); Edwin and Esther [8] twins (born 1743). Thomas married Catherine Quayle and had issue (1) Margaret, born 1774; (2) Thomas, [9] born 1776, died 1798 without progeny; (3) Richard, an officer in the 39th Regiment (died unmarried at Guadaloupe in 1805) [10]. We find it recorded that Richard and his wife settled 'for certain considerations upon their son and heir Thomas and Catherine his wife, the Friary, Ballabilbert, Balladuke, and Billown. Richard was the last of the family who was a Member of the House of Keys, all his predecessors having been either members of that body or of the Council. His second son, Stanley, married Jane daughter of John Allen, heiress of the Hague Estate. There are no representatives of this branch. As none of the sons of Thomas had issue, the estates went to his daughter Margaret, [11] who married Benjamin Greetham [12] in 1795, whose issue's descendants are still in possession. Richard, who as mentioned died at Guadaloupe in 1805, was the last of the name of Tyldesley in the Isle of Man. 

1 JMO: William Tyldesley md 11 July 1701, Malew to Mary Harrison (father Richard Harrison, mother Ellinor Fargher als Harrison als Norris, who died 7 Jan 1724/5, buried at Peel Church [Malew bur reg: Mrs. Ellen Fargher als Norris, of Skilbreck, buried at Peel Church, 7 Jan 1724/5; also German bur reg: Mrs Ellinr Ffargher als Norris bur in the Church of Peel 9 Jan 1724; see Archdeacon Will 1724/5 #110, Malew of Ellinor Fargher als Harrison als Norris of Skilbreck, made 22 Nov 1722]) 

2 JMO : God’s Acre, by Feltham: MI, Arbory: "Mrs. Anne Tyldesley alias Stanley, wife of the said Capt. T., died 25th April 1772, age 68. Captn. Tyldesley, of the Friary, died July 11th, 1781, age 80." If Richard (~1701-1781, & who married Ann Stanley) is the son of Richard (d 1750), then Richard (d 1750) must be the brother of William (d 1726 (? 1722) & married Mary Harrison 1701), with Wm (d 1726) dying without progeny 

3 A branch of these Stanleys owned Ballacaighan 

4 JMO: Richard Tyldesley md 6 June 1747 Braddan to Jane Moore. Is this the Richard who died 1750, without children, and who was the son of William, and was the cousin of Richard 1701-1780? And did he marry Jane Moore, not Catharine Moore? [FPC see Will of Thomas Moore,1762 which gives Nicholas T as husband of Catherine] 

5 JMO: Thomas (born 1733); Stanley (born 1735); Elizabeth (born 1730); Ann (born 1737); Richard (born 1740, died 1774 without progeny); Edwin and Esther twins (born 1743): These are the children of Richard Tyldesley and Ann Stanley 

6 JMO : Arbory bur reg: Stanley Tyldesley bur 7 Mar 1819. 

7 JMO: Richard b 1740 (father Richd, mother Ann Stanley): Arbory bur reg: Richard Tyldesley son of Capt Richd Tyldesley & wife Mrs. Anne Stanley, bur 11 Aug 1744 

8 JMO: Arbory bur reg: Esther Tyldesley dau of Capt Richard Tyldesley & wife of Mrs Anne Stanley, bur 8 Sep 1744 

9 JMO: Capt. Thomas Tyldesley md 20 Aug 1771 Malew to Catherine Quayle. MI, Arbory, stone I2: Captain Thomas Tyldesley died May 5th 1783, aged 50 years. Cath. Tyldesley als Quayle,died Sept 27th 1780, aged 39 years. Wm, their son, aged 5 months. Sacred to the memory of Richard Tyldesley Esq., of the Friary in the Isle and a Lieutenant in the 30th Regiment who died in England on the 21st July 1791 in his 21st year. Thomas Tyldesley junior of the Friary, died April 11th 1798, aged 22 years. –Arbory Index & All Yards, published by IOMFHS [2000] 

10 JMO: Richard was born 20 Dec 1772, Arbory. God’s Acre, Feltham: MI, Castletown Chapel: "On a neat marble. Richard Tyldesley, Esq., of the Friary, Lt. 39 Regt. foot, who died at Guardalope, 21st July, 1794, aged 21. He lived highly esteemed and died much regretted." 

11 Margaret md 14 Nov 1795 Arbory, to Benjamin Greetham 

12 FPC: Bejamin Greetham was a merchant from a family of merchants in Liverpool, Margaret was apparently his 2nd wife, his father was Isaac. Gore's 1790 directory lists under name Greetham:

James, gent, 21 St James St
Isaac, merchant, Harrington. Herringhouse, 12 Grayston-street; Cooperage 23 Grayston st
Benjamin & co ship chandler and paper warehouse, 17 South Dock
J. victualler, Christian street, Islington 

In 1796
Bejamin, Ship Chandler, Harrington, Park Road ; rope walk 5 St James street
Charles Merchant, St James', Harrington Park Road; Porter and Earthernware warehouse, 5 Salthouse lane, South dock
James, gent 23 St James st
Isaac, merchant Harrington; compting house 12 Grayson Street Shaw's alley
Thomas, Ship Chandler St James Harrington, Park road

Tildesley of Garret 1664

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At Preston on 19 September 1664, Thomas Stanley provided details of the Tyldesleys of Garrett Hall for Sir William Dugdale's Visitation of Lancashire. 

This pedigree contains individuals who were not mentioned by John Lunn [FN1] (see earlier post). However, elements are open to question. For example the pedigree starts with a Laurence Tyldesley who married Margaret Standish, whereas all other sources—including Flower's Visitation of 1567—suggest this was Lambert Tyldesley.

Thomas Stanley had two links to the Tyldesleys: first, his mother was Mary Tyldesley, daughter of Lambert Tyldesley of Garrett Hall; second, he married Frances Tyldesley, daughter of Sir Thomas Tyldesley 1612-1651.

The current owners of Garrett Hall Farm, Peel Holdings, have been trying for some years to develop the site—most recently putting forward a plan for 600 homes. These plans have met local opposition with an article in the Leigh Journal, an e-petition and a Facebook group.

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1. History of the Tyldesleys of Lancashire, John Lunn, 1966

Hugh Tyldesley 1435

Hugh Tyldesley was the brother of Thomas Tyldesley, serjeant at law, who died in 1410. A brief biography is given by John Lunn in The History of the Tyldesleys of Lancashire, published in 1966:

Hugh son of Thurstan and Margaret was born about 1370; he succeeded brother Thomas in the tenure of the Wardley and Tyldesley estates. Like Thomas he was much absent from Lancashire. He entered the service of Thomas le Despenser, Earl of Gloucester, became his retainer and followed his political star, as far as was safe. For Despenser had supported Richard II and after the usurpation of the crown, he was active in conspiracy against the Lancastrian, Henry IV. To reward Tyldesley, for his armed support, Gloucester gave him yearly pensions issuing out of his many manors, which made up his honour. One such annuity was a pension of 10 marks out of the profits of the manor of Kimber-worth in Yorkshire, which on October 2, 1399, the day after he had first received it, Tyldesley assigned to trustees, one of whom was his brother, Thomas. After the execution of Gloucester, Tyldesley is found trying to protect his vested interests in several other manors, located in many counties, for the earl's possessions had been annexed by the Crown, because of high treason. During the life of Hugh, in 1422, Roger Gregory, gave up his specific claim to New Hall in the Park of Tyldesley. This quitclaim must be regarded as an act in the great conflict of the local families of the Tyldesleys and the Hultons. The deed is still preserved among the Hulton evidences. Another incident in the life of Hugh occurred in 1429, when he complained that his land in Tyldesley had been damaged by coal mining. The culprits were his neighbours, the Shakerleys. Robert Shakerley, Geoffrey his son, Geoffrey Shakerley, Margaret, widow of Peter Shakerley, Henry Bradshaw from Hindley and James Bradshaw. Hugh's fields had been disfigured by this opencast operation and he claimed damages of 20 marks. The Shakerleys retorted by violence. At Leigh, they with their servants lay in wait for Hugh, to waylay him and kill him. There was a fight and in the affray some of Hugh's servants were wounded. Another deed in the Hulton collection tells that Hugh's wife was named Aleson; she held a field called Tyldesley park. Hugh died in 1435, when his heir was declared to be Thurstan, aged about 12.

Lambert Tyldesley of Garrett Hall 1596

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John Lunn [1] dates the Tyldesleys' ownership of Garrett Hall to the 13th century and gives a firm descent for this branch of the family from Lambert Tyldesley who died in 1596.

Garrett Hall, also known as Garratt Hall or simply the Garratt, was to pass into the hands of the Stanley family in the 17th century. The last direct connection with the Tyldesleys was when Thomas Stanley of Garrett Hall married Frances Tyldesley.  Frances Tyldesley was the daughter of the Sir Thomas Tyldesley 1612-1651 and Frances Tyldesley née Standish.

As indicated in a later post, a more complete pedigree was taken from Thomas Stanley at Preston on 19 September 1664 during the Visitation of Lancashire by Sir William Dugdale.

The current owners of Garrett Hall Farm, Peel Holdings, have been trying for some years to develop the site—most recently putting forward a plan for 600 homes. These plans have met local opposition with an article in the Leigh Journal, an e-petition and a Facebook group.

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1. History of the Tyldesleys of Lancashire, John Lunn, 1966

Edward Tyldesley's marriage at Cartmel 15 September 1605

In 1872 James Stockdale published Annals of Cartmel, which included a transcription of the registers. The registers include a record of the marriage of Edward Tyldesley 1582-1622 to Elizabeth Preston on 15 September 1605:

1606. July 12. Rowland Thornburgh sone of Rowland of Hamesfell gener. was Buried.

„ Sept. 15. Edward Tildsley gener. and Eliza: Preston maried 

Edward Tildesley, of Morley, father of Sir Thomas Tildesley, who was killed just before the battle of Worcester, fighting under the Earl of Derby in Wigan Lane, in the civil wars. Elizabeth Preston, daughter of Christopher Preston, of Holker.

There is a monumental pillar erected in 1677 by Alexander Rigby, High Sheriff, on the spot where Sir Thomas Tildesley fell.